"I hate Ash Ketchum. He is a disgrace to humanity. And I hate his mother. And his Pikachu. And the way he holds his fork. I want him to die." "Jessie, get off the meme, we all know it's you." "FUCK YOU." Oh, no, but Ash is surely such a dumb glutton that he doesn't even use forks.
Her determination is admirable. Then you think about what that determination is ABOUT and it stops being so admirable. Alas... T_T
OH God. XD Now I wanna see that as a parody. "S-stupid dragon girl! It's not like I LIKE your stupid dances!" "Oh, Eliwood, I know you say these things out of the hurt in your heart. I know our love is meant to be." And Hector stands by making Meowth-esque comments until Farina drags him away. I DO TOO. XD It's just... so wildly OOC it loops around and becomes hilarious. Bonus if Eliwood acts uke-y when he isn't being a tsundere!
Cori!Jessie is Noire. There's no way around it, she's the prototype for Noire. Except Noire is cute and likeable and badass and Cori!Jessie is fucking creepy and gross. And Tharja would tell the author to fuck right off if she was supposed to appear in sweet benevolent angel-ghost form.
Yes. Yes, she does. Wobbuffet has to stop her. *sigh* In Soviet Coriverse, there is nothing unusual at all about true love that makes you attempt suicide.
And yeah, it reminds me of how whiny and weepy I used to get over fighting with my FRIENDS when I was younger and less mature. A couple in ~true love~ should not remind one of their Old Shames. Same here. XP
THIS IS WHY ROCKETSHIPPING CAN'T BE PLAYED 100% SERIOUSLY UNLESS YOU'RE PURPOSELY GOING FOR DYSFUNCTION. Because if you're gonna take it totally seriously you can't just gloss over or excuse the fact that Jessie beats the shit out of James. Unless you're willing to accept comic relief and play it as such... YES, THIS EXACTLY. Her fics would NOT be so dysfunctional if she DIDN'T insist upon everything else being darker and edgier. If violence is legit when it comes from Ash, it's legit when it comes from Jessie. SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO GRASP THIS.
Misty: And anytime I ask for a cold drink in a clean glass she calls me a bitch and goes on and on about how poor Jessie is and how she deserves clean glasses more! Brock: And I don't think Ash is ever coming out from under his bed again. Ash: *hiding under the bed, shuddering* Can't sleep, Cori will have me beaten to death. Can't sleep, Cori will stab me in the night. Pikachu: Pika, pika. (So why am I a horrible hellbeast when I'm defending myself against people who want to STEAL ME AND SELL ME FOR CASH?!)
I once heard of a fic where the girl woke up with her stomach bulging the next day. XD Actually it miiiight have been a parody? That, or it was Twilight. :P
OH MY GOD. XD And Cori wouldn't even portray the eating disorder as a bad thing. Jessie loses up to five pounds, goes paler than usual and faints dramatically and that's it. After all, nothing should ever mar Jessie's perfect beauty unless it makes her MORE beautiful somehow! Nonsense. She would look pale and wan... right up until the point where they pigged out at the end of the fic and she was magically back to normal, the end.
God, YES. That's the problem overall! Cori says TR is perfect, perfect, perfect but then their flaws lead to all the wangst and melodrama. Cori just wanted to have her wangst and eat it too and then barf it up on a webpage and force us to look at it. In all fairness, I don't mind her WRITING whatever she wanted, but then she was all militant about NO THIS IS CANON and THE WRITERS ARE WRONG and IF YOU WRITE ANYTHING DIFFERENT YOU AREN'T A TRUE TEAM ROCKET FAN and JESSIE AND JAMES ARE THE BEST COUPLE EVER and blah blah blah. If she acknowledged that it was fanon id-fic, I'd still be creeped out but cut her some slack on 'Well, she knows the difference between fic and reality, she's just venting.' I'M NOT SURE CORI ENTIRELY KNEW THE DIFFERENCE D:
EXACTLY. The thing about so-called "unhealthy relationships" in other canons is that a lot of the time they leave room for change and growth! Nino and Jaffar have time for him to grasp his emotions and her to overcome her own issues by working together. Soren can slowly learn that people besides Ike aren't the worst thing ever even if he never fully gets over his "Fuck the world, all I care about is Ike" mentality. Cori!Jessie and James just remain in the same vicious cycle until the split from canon in which all the drama is glossed over. Yeah, and I actually like those "unhealthy relationships" BECAUSE they show so much development. Cori!Jessie/James is like a strawman version of them x100. They never change, they never develop, they actually come to harm through their own sheer dysfunction, etc. etc. etc. etc. I'm beginning to sound like a preachy anti, but it DOES disturb me. (Especially since I'm not the most stable person myself, and the same goes for some of my friends, so some parts of this are, as I've said, genuinely nightmarish worst-case scenarios, and other parts make me go 'Please tell me I don't act like this D:'.)
Nope. :P Thought not. XD
Urge to write Essiefic where Ninian does just that over seeing Eliwood talk to Lyn rising... Doooo iiiiiit.
And at least Lyon has the excuse of being possessed! Jessie and James are in full control of their bodies and senses! XD Any comparatives really end up with Cori!Jessie and Cori!James thoroughly on the batshit side. 'Well, the Evangelion characters... but they were fighting for humanity's survival, and they had REALLY fucked-up pasts, and they were young teenagers, and Jessie and James are late-teenage criminals with moderately unpleasant childhoods*... not really the same thing... And the Eva characters are STILL more stable...'
*Actually, I'd cut Cori!James as much slack as Cori!Jessie, which is why it's somewhat weird that the instability levels differ. Cori is playing genuine canon points For The Drama with him - which leaves him with strict yet neglectful parents who saw nothing wrong with marrying him off to a juvenile psychopath. His abandonment issues SHOULD be as bad as Jessie's in their own way, yet only Jessie really gets the MY MOMMA IS DEAD AND I NEVER KNEW MY DADDY angst. I guess the reason it doesn't work is that she refused to keep him as somewhat of a wimp... which just winds up making him a battered boyfriend instead. It honestly would make more sense if the flipside of Cori!Jessie's acting out is Cori!James's being passive and letting her have her way because that was his survival mechanism as a child. [/psychologically analyzing cheap wangstfics]
True. They're just entitled and whiny shitbags who think the world owes them a giving because of their ~twagic pasts~. Nothing is ever their fault! Even when they go on their weepy self-blaming sprees it's never REALLY their fault! They never needed to apologize because they couldn't help doing such bad things! AND THEN THEY GET A STATUE DEDICATED TO THEM
(I will never get over that. I SARCASTICALLY had Tom say something to that effect when the festival hit. I never expected Cori to actually have the sheer batshittery TO DO IT. @_@)
But yeah. It's creepy. Beyond creepy. NERGAL-was-more-justified-in-ranting-about-betrayal creepy. At least HE never claimed that his life-sucking activities were justified because Athos burned half his face off, wah.
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Oh, no, but Ash is surely such a dumb glutton that he doesn't even use forks.
Alas... T_T
I DO TOO. XD It's just... so wildly OOC it loops around and becomes hilarious. Bonus if Eliwood acts uke-y when he isn't being a tsundere!
And Tharja would tell the author to fuck right off if she was supposed to appear in sweet benevolent angel-ghost form.
*sigh* In Soviet Coriverse, there is nothing unusual at all about true love that makes you attempt suicide.
Same here. XP
YES, THIS EXACTLY. Her fics would NOT be so dysfunctional if she DIDN'T insist upon everything else being darker and edgier. If violence is legit when it comes from Ash, it's legit when it comes from Jessie. SHE DOESN'T SEEM TO GRASP THIS.
Pikachu: Pika, pika. (So why am I a horrible hellbeast when I'm defending myself against people who want to STEAL ME AND SELL ME FOR CASH?!)
That, or it was Twilight. :P
Nonsense. She would look pale and wan... right up until the point where they pigged out at the end of the fic and she was magically back to normal, the end.
In all fairness, I don't mind her WRITING whatever she wanted, but then she was all militant about NO THIS IS CANON and THE WRITERS ARE WRONG and IF YOU WRITE ANYTHING DIFFERENT YOU AREN'T A TRUE TEAM ROCKET FAN and JESSIE AND JAMES ARE THE BEST COUPLE EVER and blah blah blah. If she acknowledged that it was fanon id-fic, I'd still be creeped out but cut her some slack on 'Well, she knows the difference between fic and reality, she's just venting.' I'M NOT SURE CORI ENTIRELY KNEW THE DIFFERENCE D:
Yeah, and I actually like those "unhealthy relationships" BECAUSE they show so much development. Cori!Jessie/James is like a strawman version of them x100. They never change, they never develop, they actually come to harm through their own sheer dysfunction, etc. etc. etc. etc. I'm beginning to sound like a preachy anti, but it DOES disturb me. (Especially since I'm not the most stable person myself, and the same goes for some of my friends, so some parts of this are, as I've said, genuinely nightmarish worst-case scenarios, and other parts make me go 'Please tell me I don't act like this D:'.)
Thought not. XD
Doooo iiiiiit.
XD Any comparatives really end up with Cori!Jessie and Cori!James thoroughly on the batshit side. 'Well, the Evangelion characters... but they were fighting for humanity's survival, and they had REALLY fucked-up pasts, and they were young teenagers, and Jessie and James are late-teenage criminals with moderately unpleasant childhoods*... not really the same thing... And the Eva characters are STILL more stable...'
*Actually, I'd cut Cori!James as much slack as Cori!Jessie, which is why it's somewhat weird that the instability levels differ. Cori is playing genuine canon points For The Drama with him - which leaves him with strict yet neglectful parents who saw nothing wrong with marrying him off to a juvenile psychopath. His abandonment issues SHOULD be as bad as Jessie's in their own way, yet only Jessie really gets the MY MOMMA IS DEAD AND I NEVER KNEW MY DADDY angst.
I guess the reason it doesn't work is that she refused to keep him as somewhat of a wimp... which just winds up making him a battered boyfriend instead. It honestly would make more sense if the flipside of Cori!Jessie's acting out is Cori!James's being passive and letting her have her way because that was his survival mechanism as a child. [/psychologically analyzing cheap wangstfics]
AND THEN THEY GET A STATUE DEDICATED TO THEM
(I will never get over that. I SARCASTICALLY had Tom say something to that effect when the festival hit. I never expected Cori to actually have the sheer batshittery TO DO IT. @_@)
But yeah. It's creepy. Beyond creepy. NERGAL-was-more-justified-in-ranting-about-betrayal creepy. At least HE never claimed that his life-sucking activities were justified because Athos burned half his face off, wah.