guardians_song | Following Sarajayechan's example... [OPEN THREAD]

First thing: I am so bleeping excited because I just saw your "now sporking sexy priv checklist". But that's nothng to have a conversation about.

2: I feel kinda guilty about commenting in your journal so much. I feel like after I comment you might get a notification in your mail and be like "oh boy someone comented! ... Oh, you again. ... Hiiiii..." Not that I think you don't like me, but you know. You know? You don't know, do you?

Unpopular Opinion: I did not like the TV show Friends. It was far, far too high school. It may as well have been called "he likes she likes". A lot of sitcoms do that- they're funny in the first two seasons, then the writers become fans of themselves and start acting like typical fans- shipping the hell out of their characters. Happened with The Big Bang Theory, happened with Boy Meets World to some extent, and I'm probably forgetting a few other shows. It's Not. Interesting. It is not entertaining. It's not funny. It's a one-note joke that falls flat. Look, I can recite how it goes: realization, date, break up, stupid gender stereotypes, being close, some talk with friends about "being the man in the relationship", a misunderstanding, third party complicates shytt, sex joke sex joke sex innunendo I don't give a flying feck; I'd rather watch paint dry.

I tolerated it on the Office mostly because Jim and Pam were best friends and Dwight and Angela was brief, quick, and secret. And
The other couple-driven episodes (the serious couples, not the jokes like Michael's failed ships or Andy and Angela) were just... I fast-forwarded through those because I didn't give a durn. It's more interesting when they're all just being stupid and doing stuff like Office Olympics and field trips and implementing silly policies like Dwight's Taliban State. Or discussing office policies! Diversity Day, Women's Appereciation, Homosexual Awareness, that stuff was friggin hilarious because it was about people learning how to interact with other people. That's life, that's interesting.

Michael and Holly had its good moments, too, but only when they were proving how good they were together- that is when they were enjoying one-another's dumb, awkward, dorky jokes. They did that couple properly right away- Michael does his Yoda impression, then looks so miserable, and you can just see in his eyes a spark of self-conciousness, like the kind Jan probably made him feel. Then Holly says it back, and it's like ... Iunno, it's like Michael was a rabbit on a planet of ducks and Duck-rabbits, and he sees someone in the flower bushes and puts a carrot in front of it, then Holly-rabbit just popped her head out of the flower bush and she's holding a carrot, too, and she breaks it in half and offers half to Michael.

Wow, I just realized you might not even watch The Office. Nevermind.

Don't worry about commenting in my journal too much. XD;; I don't mind loads-&-loads of comments.

"and I'm probably forgetting a few other shows."
I was about to say "Harry Potter to the max", then realized that HP wasn't a show. :| But... yeah, the shipping fever overtakes tons of series, doesn't it? The Star Wars Expanded Universe novels got pretty unintentionally funny for a while on the romance front because two of the major writers had conflicting ships for the main second-gen female character.
('In this book, Jaina participates in a bug alien orgy with Zekk!'
'Too bad! Now Zekk's hooked up with a hot redhead, and Jaina's with Jag, neener neener neener!'
'He's single again! And Jag just got crashed on a remote planet for the next three years!'
'Well, now Jag's back, and Zekk's on the other side of the galaxy! Take THAT!'
'Troy, Aaron, stop fighting.'
*in harmony* 'NO! MY SHIP! MIIIIINE!')

"Look, I can recite how it goes: realization, date, break up, stupid gender stereotypes, being close, some talk with friends about "being the man in the relationship", a misunderstanding, third party complicates shytt, sex joke sex joke sex innunendo I don't give a flying feck; I'd rather watch paint dry."
*cringes* I am suddenly glad I don't watch TV romances. I've at least missed out on the "man in the relationship" part, and book romances tend to skip the break-up on account of limited pagecount. (And historical-fiction romances tend to enliven things with somebody's head getting chopped off. Or maybe I just read too much Tudor-era stuff.)

But that's a really good description - thanks for outlining it like that. I never realized quite how formulatic it was before. :|

I don't watch The Office, but it sounds interesting. I should check it out sometime...

The Office is greatbelieve them. Even if it's kinda dramatized.

That's one of the things that p*ssed me off about Ron/Hermione (speaking of Harry Potter). Everyone on Earth was going "oh, Ron and Hermione are gonna be together" and "when are they just gonna get it on?" and all that crap. And when I said I hated the ship, of course I got"But why-y-y?" and it annoyed me to death because I was reading the story not as "this thing to entertain me" but as "this account of what happened to these people" and... you know what I mean, Guardian? I can't even... I mean, how would they like actually being around a pair that barely gets along!

Disclaimer: I 100% ship Ron/Draco. My problem with the R/Hr shippers of those days was that they were out of their minds and refused to see one bad thing about their ship. They couldn't admit that they treated one-another badly. It goes to show that insecurity screams the loudest now, doesn't it? The Dance Scene Reactions were so friggin telling.

*cringes* I am suddenly glad I don't watch TV romances. I've at least missed out on the "man in the relationship" part, and book romances tend to skip the break-up on account of limited pagecount.
I guess this was mostly 90's TGIF sitcoms, but then afterwards, you do start to see a pattern. I watched a lot of TV from third grade until sixth when my WeeaBoo phase was about to began.

Side note: I don't care- in dial-up internet days, we all went thorugh a weeaboo phase, those who say they didn't are friggin lying. The only reason it's worse now is because all the weeaboos can connect. Honestly, one isolated weeaboo in a group of five hundred, if you've never met another or have met very few is not seen as a weeaboo, but as "my crazy friend who is obsessed with X". I really think that these days it's so annoying because it's become an archetype.

Anyhow, 90's sitcoms were entertaining back then (I think...) but when I look back on them now, they seem unbelievably cheesy and a bit over-acted. Everything from the arm gestures to the responses. Mostly, I guess it's the canned laughter. But take a look at TV shows today- most of them are filmed more "realistically", with one camera angle (versus three camera), and sometimes there are areas where the writers don't write anything and the actors have to improvise arguing or struggling for words. Also, there are a lot more anti-heroes and bad endings. I'm thinking right now about the show "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. That show's great because it's basically about a group of selfish, careless, semi-oblivious people who do bad things in an attempt to further themselves, but nine out of ten times, they get exactly what's coming to them. And they're too self-absorbed to realize other people think they're rude or selfish. So... it's an expansion of the old TV sitcoms, I guess. Back in the day, the main character would do something dumb and everyone would laugh and cheer for them. Nowadays, the camera is moving back to ask "ok, so what about the rest of the people who have to deal with this asshole's actions?" I'm glad they're doing that. Makes me feel like I wasn't the only kid who grew up watching TV and wondered why the hell I was supposed to be laughing at Tom and Jerry when Jerry was the one who started it. If there's one kind of cartoon or TV formula I can't stand, it's someone getting hurt when they really don't deserve it, especially when they're being set up, and the audience is supposed to find it funny. Even in those episodes where the bad guy was getting blamed and hurt for something he didn't do. Those especially were troubling because it makes you realize that the only reason you're cheering for the "good guys" is because you're hearing their side of the story, and if you were hearing about the villain's side, you'd be cheering for them.

I haven't been to GPX Plus in weeks. XD; *feels guilty*

Meanwhile, if you're familiar with FE9/10 we have another for the Cori Emblem pile. You just know Cori would deny the all but canon love between Ike and Soren (or rather, Soren's all but canon love for Ike) and Heather being a lesbian. But I can't decide who her woobies would be and who she'd bash to high heaven.

I don't have much time to waste on GPX+ at the moment...alas. Hatched 370 relicanths for a shiny, haven't gotten one yet. Still pales in comparison to my shiny skarmory hatch number (765 eggs to find that one).

Yikes. D:

Right now, I am lieking Mudkips. D| If I ever start releasing Pokemon, I'm going to dump about sixty Mudkips onto the site at once. And I'm going to have to keep hatching them for a loooong time, since I want to use them for the 1,500 eggs-of-same-type achievement. Joy.

On the bright side, I do have a 155 IV Swampert now! So that's nice...

(I'm Beast of the Sea on there, in case you're wondering.)

I'm Dinogrrl there. Tend to stick with that name wherever I go :D.

Probably bash Ike. He's the muscle-headed type, right? You know she'd be ranting up a storm.

Fifty-fifty she'd like Heather but insist upon her true canon love for... I don't know, Soren? Sorry, my FE9/FE10 canon knowledge is sorely lacking. All I know is that Soren/Ike OTP, Heather is a lesbian, Ilyana (is that right?) has a bottomless hole for a stomach, and that sort of thing. D: So let's say submissive!weepy!Heather/manly!Soren for the WTF.

And he's blunt, and been told he's rude before. She'd totally make the game Geoffrey's story. Or...idk, Ranulf. Not sure if she'd bash Shinon as well or woobify him. He actually IS a huge dick, but he's always been jealous of Ike.

OH GOD HEATHER/SOREN. XD In reality they'd never get past holding hands before Soren was all BRB FINDING IKE and Heather went to watch Nephenee shower. *snerk* And yeah, her name is Ilyana.

She just might be able to wrangle some kind of fucked up Soren/Heather love story out of FE/10. She'd also be totally into Elincia/Geoffrey and Haar/Jill.

"She'd totally make the game Geoffrey's story. Or...idk, Ranulf. Not sure if she'd bash Shinon as well or woobify him. He actually IS a huge dick, but he's always been jealous of Ike.'
She'd bash him mildly until Shigeru1313 wandered into the fandom, at which point she would show Cori the Light Of Shinonfendom. :P [Truly, that partnership is both understandable and hilarious for speculation purposes. Between the two of 'em, they cover both versions of moderately-sympathetic-villain woobiefication.]

"She just might be able to wrangle some kind of fucked up Soren/Heather love story out of FE/10. She'd also be totally into Elincia/Geoffrey and Haar/Jill."
Heh. Incidentally.. do you think Cori could have managed to make the villains the Real Heroes (TM)? That would give her even more room to bash Ike...

Sounds about right. And then Shinon would be this sensitive artist type and date...idk, Nephenee or someone? Or an OC named Arwen because it's Shigeru1313.

She could definitely pull that off with Petrine. And Naesala, since he does a Heel Face Revolving Door thing...and then there's Shiharm, Jill's father.

Yep. Or an OC named Aenir, since this is FE fandom. XD

*nods* So she has somewhere to start. And then, you remember, she even managed to make Giovanni a Really Swell Guy Under It All... So who's next? The Black Knight? ...I mean, he killed Greil, right? And you just know that because Ike would be EEEVIL, so would Ike's relatives... :|

That too! XD

Yes, the Black Knight! And possibly Ashnard even though the man HAS nothing in his backstory that'd make him sympathetic or heroic.

Not so sure about the whole "Ike's relatives are all evil" thing, though. I mean, Cori would definitely consider Mist a decent kid, either from the beginning or through a Heel Face Turn if she started out bashing her. She'd probably like Greil and Elena well enough. "They had one decent kid, Ike's just the black sheep who eats raw cow legs and drinks too much and hits women!"

"I mean, Cori would definitely consider Mist a decent kid, either from the beginning or through a Heel Face Turn if she started out bashing her."
You're right... provided that Mist acted like a brat at first, then turned out to just have a repressed crush on Soren. |P [Funny, the name is only one letter off...]

Maybe Greil could be a dead version of Brock?

YES, and she was jealous of Soren liking Ike more even though Ike didn't deserve it! And then Soren plays matchmaker for her and Boyd! (That relationship gets kinda sappy in FE10, so Cori would love it) And Rolf would be an entitled whiny prick about losing "his" girl until Cori set him up with an OC or something.

Yep, pretty much. And Elena is Mist's Miyamoto.

MIST'S Miyamoto? Naaaaw. Heather would have a mother who was just stealing to keep her poor daughter fed, but she tragically died in a landslide caused by some muscle-headed guys fooling around, leaving poor Heather traumatized, alone, and afraid of men! Or... something. |P

Actually the canon situation for Heather is sorta the reverse-Heather steals to provide for her poor sick mother. But I forget if endgame says momma survives, so she could die horribly and become Heather's guardian angel! Who also protects Soren because he somehow became her precious daughter's soul mate.

Really? Huh. Almost got it. :P

Well... Cori was never above bending canon when it conflicted with her WYDS - maybe she claims she is, but in reality her poor sick mother died years ago and she says she's stealing for her because she ~means~ she's stealing to keep herself alive, because it's what her mother would have wanted. *angstwankangstwankangstwank*

And what poor soul gets to be the ~~ship-slave~~ ~soulfriend~? Nephenee? D:

That sounds right, yeah. And anyone who side-eyes her story gets a punch in the mouth and a self-righteous speech filled with swear words.

Yep. ~~And then Heather cheats on Soren with their soul friend and Soren no longer gives a shit as he's too busy drowning himself in whiskey and crying over what Cori did to his beloved Ike.~~

Let's see....

I know you're probably sick of seeing this all over your friends page, but I thought you might enjoy this. Doug Walker tears Twilight several new assholes in his Out-Of-Character review of Breaking Dawn: Part 1 on how it handles the abortion issue. (His Bum Review is also worth watching. :P)

I believe there was also a review that featured 50 Shades of Gray prominently, and it co-starred several members of Team Four Star and they read from the book in Zoidberg, Mickey Mouse, and other voices. Great fun was had by all! Let me know if you're interested and I'll give you the link.

...Okay, onto something we can both relate to! I'm thinking about doing an Elbe or Richard plushie for you for your birthday, if you have any references to what their full-body outfits look like. Of course, it doesn't HAVE to be them--it can be one of your other OCs as well, if you'd like. I just really wanna make you something. :)

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Nah, I haven't seen it all over my friends page. I'll have to give it a look. :)

Let me know if you're interested and I'll give you the link.
Naw, I'm not that interested in the 50SOG anti-fandom at the moment. When it enters my orbit again, I'll reconsider.

...Okay, onto something we can both relate to! I'm thinking about doing an Elbe or Richard plushie for you for your birthday, if you have any references to what their full-body outfits look like. Of course, it doesn't HAVE to be them--it can be one of your other OCs as well, if you'd like. I just really wanna make you something. :)
Huh?! You don't need to do that, seriously! :D;; (Besides, my birthday's in July, so it's a long ways off. :P) Thank you, but it's fine. Really. :D;; You're way too nice. :)

Also I've developed myself some non-canon preferred pairings for Tellius and I keep imagining Zacharias going to, say, Alyssia or Julia "if you dislike Astrid/Makalov and feel she could do better, why are you in fandom? Write your own original fiction~!". DAMN YOU SHIPWAR. Though Lyssie or Julia would just put him in his place like "oh, so disliking a VERY MINOR PAIRING in the grand scheme of things is somehow going to damage the entire canon" and making him storm off in a humiliated tantrum before Missy opens her mouth and he turns his daggers on her.

SPEAKING OF SHIPWAR we have a situation Zach may want to intervene with. Or Milos may want to grin at. Or Mila may want to eyeroll at.

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