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guardians_song) wrote2013-02-27 09:47 pm
guardians_song) wrote2013-02-27 09:47 pm
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*passive-aggressive bitching*
It's just fine for people to say 'I've never read a slashfic that didn't turn a man into a whimpering uke!' / 'I can't read slashfic, even though I know there are good ones, because I read too many bad ones early on!' / 'It's SO WRONG if a male character sounds like a woman!', isn't it? Yeah, just fine.
I mean, it's not like the author currently posting the vast majority of the fics on![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
edward_jacob is a man. It's not like there are many HET fics that turn women into whimpering, sobbing messes completely unrecognizable from their canon characterizations while the men become tough, powerful assholes completely unrecognizable from their canon characterizations. It's not like women aren't automatically sensitive, delicate balls of feelings who end up semi-swooning into a man's strong arms every few scenes (at the least), and so it's both inaccurate and unpleasant to say that turning a male character into such is turning him into a woman.
Nope. Not at all.
I haven't slept much for the last two days and I've been back on caffeine as a result, so I'm just irritable. I wouldn't bother to rant about it if I didn't have said chemical looping around in my brain. Just...
I'm disgusted. Or maybe I'm off to NEVER READ A HET FIC AGAIN OMG, because I READ TOO MANY BAD HET FICS DURING MY FORMATIVE PHASE or BECAUSE TOO MANY MAKE GIRLS WIMPY or ALL HET FICS MAKE GIRLS WIMPY, YEP, TOTALLY, AAAALL OF THEM. Because this is so reasonable and intelligent and not at all showing a ludicrous double standard regarding heterosexual couples and homosexual couples!
Flatly speaking, if I refused to read any subsection of stories that had gratuitous gender-role fetishization, frequent spine-removal-surgery conducted on characterizations, and other such story-warping tropes running rampant?
I'd be obliged to read femmeslash and femmeslash alone. (And if there's a lot of femmeslash with the above traits, I haven't run into it yet. ...Though I'll admit to not reading femmeslash that often.) That wouldn't be so bad, I guess. I mean, at least you're guaranteed a Bechdel Test pass. I'd get some pretty funny looks if I said I refused to read anything but femmeslash because of creepy cliches in het, though, wouldn't I? People would call me oversensitive, one of those awful, outdated second-wave feminists, and a delusional grievance-monger. They certainly wouldn't be thinking that I had standards and that I was more discerning than those horrible, problematic people who *gasp* enjoyed het.
But I guess it's just to be accepted when women are portrayed in manners that would have the anti-slash brigades screaming bloody murder about ukes. After all, that's just how women are, amirite? The only - the only - offense of bad slash writers is forcing men and boys into female roles.
Yes in-bloody-deed.
And, because I'm being passive-aggressive, I'm not crossposting this to LJ, because I can't be arsed to have people who also follow that comm telling me that I just interpreted that comment thread wrong and that's totally not what was meant. I'll keep my mouth shut about my gripes some other night, when the caffeine's out of my system and I'm quietly willing to be polite, say my part in mature and reasonable language to the parties in question, and then maintain a calm and respectful silence.
Not tonight, though. Not when I have both the stupidity and the strength to shoot off my mouth about it - the way I perhaps should have done a while before now. Ha. There are certain benefits to decreased judgment and lowered inhibitions.
(And yes, I did politely comment with recommendations of slash fics that weren't like their stereotypes, and mention that it was unreasonable to say all slash fics were like that and that turning a male character into an uke-stereotype meant turning him into a woman. But I cannot be arsed to solely be polite tonight. I flatly cannot.)
I mean, it's not like the author currently posting the vast majority of the fics on
edward_jacob is a man. It's not like there are many HET fics that turn women into whimpering, sobbing messes completely unrecognizable from their canon characterizations while the men become tough, powerful assholes completely unrecognizable from their canon characterizations. It's not like women aren't automatically sensitive, delicate balls of feelings who end up semi-swooning into a man's strong arms every few scenes (at the least), and so it's both inaccurate and unpleasant to say that turning a male character into such is turning him into a woman.Nope. Not at all.
I haven't slept much for the last two days and I've been back on caffeine as a result, so I'm just irritable. I wouldn't bother to rant about it if I didn't have said chemical looping around in my brain. Just...
I'm disgusted. Or maybe I'm off to NEVER READ A HET FIC AGAIN OMG, because I READ TOO MANY BAD HET FICS DURING MY FORMATIVE PHASE or BECAUSE TOO MANY MAKE GIRLS WIMPY or ALL HET FICS MAKE GIRLS WIMPY, YEP, TOTALLY, AAAALL OF THEM. Because this is so reasonable and intelligent and not at all showing a ludicrous double standard regarding heterosexual couples and homosexual couples!
Flatly speaking, if I refused to read any subsection of stories that had gratuitous gender-role fetishization, frequent spine-removal-surgery conducted on characterizations, and other such story-warping tropes running rampant?
I'd be obliged to read femmeslash and femmeslash alone. (And if there's a lot of femmeslash with the above traits, I haven't run into it yet. ...Though I'll admit to not reading femmeslash that often.) That wouldn't be so bad, I guess. I mean, at least you're guaranteed a Bechdel Test pass. I'd get some pretty funny looks if I said I refused to read anything but femmeslash because of creepy cliches in het, though, wouldn't I? People would call me oversensitive, one of those awful, outdated second-wave feminists, and a delusional grievance-monger. They certainly wouldn't be thinking that I had standards and that I was more discerning than those horrible, problematic people who *gasp* enjoyed het.
But I guess it's just to be accepted when women are portrayed in manners that would have the anti-slash brigades screaming bloody murder about ukes. After all, that's just how women are, amirite? The only - the only - offense of bad slash writers is forcing men and boys into female roles.
Yes in-bloody-deed.
And, because I'm being passive-aggressive, I'm not crossposting this to LJ, because I can't be arsed to have people who also follow that comm telling me that I just interpreted that comment thread wrong and that's totally not what was meant. I'll keep my mouth shut about my gripes some other night, when the caffeine's out of my system and I'm quietly willing to be polite, say my part in mature and reasonable language to the parties in question, and then maintain a calm and respectful silence.
Not tonight, though. Not when I have both the stupidity and the strength to shoot off my mouth about it - the way I perhaps should have done a while before now. Ha. There are certain benefits to decreased judgment and lowered inhibitions.
(And yes, I did politely comment with recommendations of slash fics that weren't like their stereotypes, and mention that it was unreasonable to say all slash fics were like that and that turning a male character into an uke-stereotype meant turning him into a woman. But I cannot be arsed to solely be polite tonight. I flatly cannot.)
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